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Old 03-07-19, 09:35 AM
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Remove overhang

So i have this overhang in the kitchen that best i can tell is just built out and has insulation in it because my roof slopes in there from the outside. I am wanting to put full length cabinets in the kitchen but wanted to know if its necessary for this to be here? there's a part of the roof that slopes into the top of this area. but i was hoping to make this even with the rest of my kitchen and maybe have a thin piece of insulation between the ceiling and roof here.

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Old 03-07-19, 09:47 AM
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It's a type of soffit, some homes have them, some not,

Some people like them, others hate them.

Can you remove, sure, might want to take a look in the attic and see what is up there but at best you would rip out that upper wall, rebuild the existing wall and then repair all the drywall on the walls and ceiling!
 
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Old 03-07-19, 10:29 AM
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the only thing i see up in that space is insulation. yes it just looks odd i think. does it matter if insulation is between this and the roof?
 
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Old 03-07-19, 10:56 AM
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You can surely remove the soffit, but the question in my mind is what sort of framing you will find in the peaked area. Step one is removing drywall/plaster and getting a good look at the framing. In order to open it up and see, all the drywall on the wall papered wall will need to go first, all the way to the peak of the ceiling. The sloped part of the ceiling will eventually need to get extended to the exterior wall.
 
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I think the roof slopes up to where it meets at the top, so i may would have some sloped sheet rock right there i think. I will try to get in there soon to see what the roof part looks like in that area.
 
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Here is a picture from in the roof and on the outside, so if i remove that ill have a ceiling that slopes down in that area. there is not much insulation once you drop into that sofet anyways.

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so i got up in attic again and it seems there is only a little insulation in that overhand. My question is, if I remove it do i need to put some roll insulation in between the roof and sheet rock?
 
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Old 02-25-20, 11:08 AM
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Old post, if the window on the inside is the same as the outside, I'll bet that the soffit is just boxed in on the inside and not open up into the attic meaning you may not have to do anything.

You either need to poke a hole through the drywall on the inside or dig down through the insulation to see if it's open!
 
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yes i know old, i'm revisiting this project, planning to get started soon. thanks
 
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That boxed in area above the cabinets may be for a pipe chase. Check the area carefully before demo.
 
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Old 02-25-20, 04:17 PM
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To answer your most recent question.... YES, you want as much insulation as possible above your ceiling if you dont want to have a cold spot there that will get moldy when it sweats in winter months.

Several layers of rigid foam will give you better r value than fiberglass anywhere the depth is less than ideal.
 
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I plan on getting as much foam as i can in the space. my plan is to cut a small hole on one side and take a peak inside. I really can't see much from the attic other than spray insulation everywhere. I moved some insulation and i can see a 2x4 where it drops off into the area. I do not think there are any pipes or anything but insulation in the space. once i cut a hole i'll try to take a picture and post to show what it looks like.
 
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The wall above the window in the first pic seems about normal so my guess is the ceiling portion of the pipe chase is about 8 feet. So how much cabinet height are you looking to gain? Also, is the second pic not the roof above the window in the first pic as it looks like the flat ceiling is much wider than the pipe chase?
 
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So i was finally able to cut a hole in the wall beside that part and there is nothing but insulation in there. the kicker is if I cut that out and put up new insulation and sheet rock I will only gain about 6" on my cabinet height. I had wanted to put full size cabinets in so that won't work. the roof joist come down at a pretty good angle so i'd have to have an angle in the top of the cabinet too. Just not worth all that work I don't think.
 
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Old 03-09-20, 12:07 PM
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So if you go back to your original inside picture, what was not clear was that the ceiling is actually sloping toward the window and not flat as I assumed.

A good example of how it can be difficult even with pictures when the same shot with wider view might have been more revealing!
 
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Old 03-09-20, 03:51 PM
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And its now clear why that soffit was there. The wall height is a little lower than normal so they built the soffit out to hide the rafters and make the rest of the ceiling start a little higher.
 
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