Newel post: steel attaching plate question


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Old 10-22-15, 04:48 AM
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Newel post: steel attaching plate question

Hi,

During my project replacing carpet with laminate, now I am facing an issue.

There is a square steel plate fixed underneath the stair post. It sticks out of the floor edge, also causes uneven sub-floor surface.

To remove it, seems a very hard task. And I am not sure how and wonder it may causes structure issue if removing it.

So, what can I do now? I need even floor surface and straight line of the edge for floor installation.

Any suggestions are really appreciated.

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Old 10-22-15, 04:52 AM
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I don't recall having seen a newel post mounted that way but I'd be concerned removing that plate [all or in part] would compromise the post and railing. I'd be inclined to cover it with wood, stained/finished to match the laminate.
 
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Old 10-22-15, 04:56 AM
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One of the pro's should be along soon. Hopefully one of the flooring guys will stop by also, as this is as much a flooring installation question as a stair question. I'm assuming by the look that the plate is simply a structural-strength element of the post installation. I'm not sure removing it will be an option. Possibly the laminate would have to be under-cut (dado blade work on a table saw) to custom fir the sections over the plate. Kind of curious myself what the pro's will say.
 
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Old 10-22-15, 04:57 AM
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Mark types faster than I do.

Can you post a couple more pics from a longer view showing more detail of surrounding area?
 
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Old 10-22-15, 05:16 AM
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Old 10-22-15, 05:20 AM
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It's hard to tell from the pics what's going on there with the OSB subfloor butting up against some other pieces of wood. Is the plate sticking out past the top step riser? Anyway, as far as the height issue, I would think trimming the laminate underpad around the plate would even it out enough. If the overhang is a problem, cut it flush with whatever metal cutting tool you have at hand such as a vibrating multi tool or grinder with metal cutting disk.
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Old 10-22-15, 09:48 AM
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It wouldn't surprise me if that plate wasn't a previous owner' attempt at anchoring the newel post to the floor. The plate was probably attached to the post with long screws, up from the bottom, before being screwed to the floor. If that's the case, trimming the plate in place could result in a very wobbly post.

Why not run the new laminate up to it, and then overlay more laminate over it in a decorative pattern (mitered corners, like a picture frame), attached with adhesive?
 
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Old 10-22-15, 02:26 PM
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It is a continuation of this thread http://www.doityourself.com/forum/so...loor-edge.html

Does not change the fact that you have a difficult install and trying to cut around your balusters is a tough solution that even a carpenter would be hesitant to take on. Removal of the stair railing system and installation of trim, re-install of the rail system and then worry about your laminate is still the recommended solution. Starting a new post in a different topic will not change that fact.
 
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Old 10-22-15, 04:13 PM
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All those ballusters ought to be sitting on a trim (baluster rail) anyway. Czizzi is spot on.... remove and replace.
 
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This subject has been discussed many time on this and any DIY site.
All pro flooring installers have agreed laminate is a waste of time and money on a second floor.
It has to have room to expand and contract.
The so called stair nose that Armstrong makes cracks and are nothing more the peel and stick shelf paper over ground up cardboard.
To do this right the railings and balisters all need to come out, landing tread installed, a better Newl post base installed.
 
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Old 02-08-16, 05:19 PM
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updates. finally got it done by a contractor. Thanks for all previous suggestion and useful information.


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Thanks for sharing the pictures of the finished project. What was the final solution for the post?
 
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Old 02-08-16, 06:29 PM
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the steel plate was left there. the new oak stair nose was under-cut to make room for it..
 
 

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