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Old 02-21-16, 07:02 AM
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Need ideas to improve existing deck

We have a deck that needs a major facelift, on a budget.

The current paint on it is an awful shade and poorly done. The deck isn't used for anything but to hold the grill at this point. If I had funds, turning it into a 3 season room would be nice. Otherwise, some kind of sun shade or pergola is needed, a new paint job and any other suggestions would be appreciated.

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Old 02-21-16, 07:25 AM
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Your pics don't show us the condition of the deck itself. Give us some pics of the floor and entrance area and the steps. Is it paint or old stain? I think a power wash would be a better choice than sanding. Then if the wood is in decent condition then a high quality stain might be in order as rejuvenation procedure.
 
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It's awful! The wood was pressure washed before hand and you can see swirls in the wood. Name:  20160221_095201_resized.jpg
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I think it was a Behr stain.
 
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Old 02-21-16, 08:23 AM
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The person doing the power wash may have been too aggressive with it. But I agree the wood is in poor shape. You said you want to make it look decent at a reasonable cost as opposed to replacement. I would not ordinarily recommend this product but Rustolium has a product called Restore 10X. It will do what you want. However, it will not preserve the wood from further deterioration because the underside cannot be covered. Moister will still permeate the wood from underneath. The other draw back about 10x is that if it should begin to chip off, it will be a mess to scrap it off and will eventually look bad. But chipping is not a problem if properly applied. The product has its merits and can do what you want at a reasonable cost.

 
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Looks like someone used a soild stain or paint on that decking which never works out.
 
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I know Joe doesn't like solid stain on decks but I've had good results with solid stain on decking. It is important to buy deck stain as solid siding stain will never hold up on a deck! Also quality stains are usually worth the extra money as they hold up longer than their cheaper counterpart.

I would never recommend using a restore type coating on a deck unless it was expected to be the last coating applied prior to replacement. Once the thick restore type coating fails you will have a mess that is hard to fix and ready for recoating. IMO that type of coating will fail on an exposed deck.

Are the dark streaks mildew or just moisture? After making sure the deck is clean/dry, I'd apply a coat or two of a quality solid deck stain. It will help to hide a lot of the wear.
 
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Old 02-21-16, 10:20 AM
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For the reasons Norm mentioned and having first hand experience with Restore, I agree with Marksr in that it must be a last resort method. I have it on my deck and porch and wish I could do a "system restore" on my life to kick myself before I did it.
 
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This is good food for thought. How expensive would it be to replace the wood with that durable, never splinters, never paint type material I see new decks built with?

So to fix this problem, first I need to strip the paint? Do you used a chemical, garden hose the a sander for that?

I'm thinking I can take down the lattice and use it to replace the white, plastic lattice. Is there another suggestion for the bottom?

I was also wondering if I should replace the railing with black metal posts.
 
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Old 02-21-16, 10:55 AM
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I think you are referring to Trex or an equivalent. It is expensive, hot to the feet, but last a long time. Usually longer than your framing. 5/4 x 6 x 16' can run around $41 each, and your framing will need to be no more than 12" on center, so it may not be viable.

Yeah, I didn't see the need in the lattice since you had a balustrade already unless it helped with the low sun angle. Black metal posts would be expensive, too. There's nothing wrong with your wooden balusters if they are spaced and fastened well. The lower lattice has no real purpose except for pretty. You don't really need it.

I'll leave Marksr to advise on the paint/stain, etc since that is his area of expertise.
 
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Old 02-21-16, 11:13 AM
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Do some hand scraping trying to search for splinters across the nap of the grain and hit it with a belt sander with a 60 to 80 grit to knock off any hairs raised from pressure washing. I also would not recommend restore. You can google issues with the product. A solid color stain applied to DRY deck boards should get you back up an running for under $100. Loose the upper lattice and it will look like a deck again.
 
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I think it is a solid stain, my fence has it too. I think it's a cedar color. Then I have a red stained swingset in the backyard. What color would you do on the deck?
 

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Here's a picture of our fence and swingset. I'm not sure what products to use for the deck or in what color.
 
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Remove the dark lattice covering the balusters. Replace the lower, white lattice with the dark lattice.
 
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I like the current stain color but there really isn't any set rules so whatever color makes you and yours happy - works. I do believe it's best to tie the colors together, introduce too many colors and it gets busy/tacky.

You don't need to remove any of the solid stain that is well adhered to the wood, no reason not to apply the fresh stain over it as long as it is clean. As already mentioned it's a good idea to replace, sand or otherwise address any boards that are splintering.

Likely the only reason the lattice was installed was to provide some measure of privacy.
 
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I think the lattice was to allow clematis vines to grow.

ShouldnI do a stain again, maybe one more transparent?
 
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Transparent stains work well on new wood but once a deck has become well weathered a solid stain is normally a better choice. In order to apply a semi-transparent stain all the existing solid stain would need to be removed first.
 
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