Storm door installation possible here?
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Storm door installation possible here?
Our front door doesn't have a storm door, and I'd like to install one. However, it looks like it won't work with my door trim. According to the manufacturer (this is from Larson), I need a 1" wide and deep mounting surface.

Here is a diagram of my door and trim, along with a photo. In my situation, the only surfaces that are at least 1" are quite far away from the surface of the door. I've bolded that area. If I were to attach the door there, it looks like there would be a gap between that plane and the front of the sill/threshold.


Am I right here? I'm thinking I can't install a storm door with this trim and I need new trim. This is my first time dealing with storm door though, so maybe I'm wrong about all this.

Here is a diagram of my door and trim, along with a photo. In my situation, the only surfaces that are at least 1" are quite far away from the surface of the door. I've bolded that area. If I were to attach the door there, it looks like there would be a gap between that plane and the front of the sill/threshold.


Am I right here? I'm thinking I can't install a storm door with this trim and I need new trim. This is my first time dealing with storm door though, so maybe I'm wrong about all this.
#2
From what I see and the trim used, this is on the inside of the building. Storm doors go on the outside, not the inside. If your door is outswing, you cannot install a storm door. Why would you need one on the inside when the storms are outside??

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Without making any major alterations to the opening, this is the type of door that is installed in your situation. http://www.proviaproducts.com/assets...8966956E17.pdf
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Nope, this isn't an interior door, it's the front entry door. The photo shows the green exterior of the door, and that's the trim that is around it.
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OK, here is a wider shot. Yes, there are faux columns.

I should mention that this is not wood trim, it is molded polyurethane foam, and I'm concerned first of all whether this stuff is even strong enough to support a door. I guess it is though, since we are in a typical suburban community with semi-alike houses and a good number of people here have storm doors, and I assume most of them also have this polyurethane trim. I don't get why I apparently don't have a standard, straightforward mounting surface for a storm door. Wouldn't the builders of the development give everybody trim with dimensions such that they could easily go down to the local Depot/Lowes and have a storm door put on?
Oh, about this molded polyurethane trim...is this stuff generally OK/respectable to use? Or is it considered cheap garbage? Be honest, I can take it.

I should mention that this is not wood trim, it is molded polyurethane foam, and I'm concerned first of all whether this stuff is even strong enough to support a door. I guess it is though, since we are in a typical suburban community with semi-alike houses and a good number of people here have storm doors, and I assume most of them also have this polyurethane trim. I don't get why I apparently don't have a standard, straightforward mounting surface for a storm door. Wouldn't the builders of the development give everybody trim with dimensions such that they could easily go down to the local Depot/Lowes and have a storm door put on?
Oh, about this molded polyurethane trim...is this stuff generally OK/respectable to use? Or is it considered cheap garbage? Be honest, I can take it.
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I believe what johnam linked would be your best bet. It's called an inside mount kit by most manufacturers and is normally about $110 list. Depends on the brand and model door. It actually mounts to the inside of the door frame, extends out, and allows use of a standard size door.
If the trim is cellular PVC, screws should hold just fine, esp since you are using so many for the z-bars. You may want to get some longer ones and see if you hit wood under the trim. If it's the foam stuff with just a thin layer of PVC, no, I don't believe you can't attach to that.
If the trim is cellular PVC, screws should hold just fine, esp since you are using so many for the z-bars. You may want to get some longer ones and see if you hit wood under the trim. If it's the foam stuff with just a thin layer of PVC, no, I don't believe you can't attach to that.
Last edited by Gunguy45; 12-15-16 at 10:59 PM.