Removing a switch with no purpose HELP


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Old 01-31-18, 06:13 PM
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Removing a switch with no purpose HELP

See two pics attached.

Electrical box labeled A in the picture except it had a switch on it - 2white, 2black, 1red wire (blacks and red are hot) running into it/no idea of how it was hooked to switch. When switched off the circuit that powers B and C and all things downstream from C plug (office, closet and bathroom) goes dead.

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Removed switch and connected as follows (2white) and (2black1red) but now the Circuit in the other room is dead

i also belive the remodeler ‘coudn’t’ figure out wiring in B so he just rewired to pull power from A is a simple fashion. One of the switches in B is a 3-way for the overhead light and 1is a timer switch for the outside light.

THE QUESTION: how do I wire A to turn back on C and all downstream circuits.

Any tips on deciphering this mess?

thank you in advance!

justin
 
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Old 01-31-18, 06:25 PM
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Welcome to the forums.

A little tough following you there.

If you are not putting a switch there..... connect the two blacks and the red together.
Also keep the two whites connected together.
 
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Old 01-31-18, 06:30 PM
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What is the color of wires in B and C ?

Usually a switch is fed off one of the outlet with 14/3, then, a switch is connected between black and red wire. This red wire is connected to half of both plugs of a duplex outlet to control a outlet for lighting.
 
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Old 02-01-18, 04:50 AM
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Pete - that’s what was done and C (and everything downstream of C) remnants dead. I think the issue is that the remodeler did some rewiring in Box B that might have impacted the setup.

i am going to pull the plates off and look at the wires in those boxes.

i would have thought what you suggested would work perfectly.
 
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Old 02-01-18, 04:58 AM
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Lambition - I ‘think’ you are right but is it common to daisy chain a whole room or branch off that switched outlet? When the switch in A was flipped ⅓ of the house went dark.

Tool me 3 hours to figure it out and felt stupid when it was just a switch and not a breaker.
 
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Old 02-01-18, 01:16 PM
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is it common to daisy chain a whole room or branch off that switched outlet
No. Usually a junction box switched outlet also has always hot wire and daisy chain is done with that wire not from the switched hot wire.
That is why 14/3 is run to the switch so that a switch gets power and possibility of feeding another outlet or switch from it.
It is possible someone wired it wrong and feed other outlets from the wrong wire.
 
 

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