Hey Fellas-
I bought and put together a barrel sauna from Costco. Now I need to wire it up. There is an existing junction box under my deck wired for 220 (see pic) Existing wiring under deck
where a hot tub used to be. It is located about 50 feet from my breaker box and it is tied into it with a 50 amp breaker. I need to run the new wiring another 100 to my sauna (50' through conduit connected to my foundation and another 50' underground.).
I'm not sure what wire to purchase. The existing wire is a 3 wire (not sure it's a 10/3 but would be my guess). The Harvia Heater manual says I need a 30 AMP fuse and utilize 10/2, or 8/2 wire if further than 90' from power source, which it is. Harvia Heater Pic Taken from Manual. This is how I'm supposed to wire it.
My Dilemma:
-Do I just continue with 10/3 and expect voltage drop (takes longer to heat up)?
-Continue with 8/2 wire. (Not sure if I should be mixing them up or if it would even help lessen voltage drop).
In either case would I simply ignore the neutral, when wiring the Heater (see pic)?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Hugh
If you have a 50 amp circuit breaker I think you need #6 conductors the whole way. You cannot reduce the conductor size along the run. The circuit is limited by the smallest conductor used. If you replace the breaker with a 30amp then you could keep the existing #8 and add on as small as #10 for the last bit. Me, I'd probably just stick with #8 the whole way to keep it simpler and more flexible for future use.
Hello Dane. Thanks for the response! Okay, good to know. I was planning on switching out the breaker to a 30 amp. Guess I'll just pick up some 8/2 wire run it and hope for the best. Do you happen to know if I would simply eliminate (not use) the neutral from the existing 3 wire?
The sauna is a straight 240. I agree. I was planning on changing the breaker to a 30 amp. I'm in a pickle because it seems that the existing wire is #10 and it's hidden in the finished wall, so I can't pull it out and replace with #8. Looks like my only option is to continue with the #10 and deal with whatever voltage drop occurs.
As mentioned... you need to replace the 50A breaker with a 30A breaker.
I would recommend continuing the run in #8 wiring to further reduce drop.
I.... personally.... would continue the run in #8 THWN/THHN wiring in conduit.
You'll have 50' at #10 and the balance in #8.
You will have a problem at the heater. Doubtful #8 will fit in that terminal block.
You may need to add an additional white and black wire.
Connect both blacks to the #8 black and the same for the white.
One tail for ground is ok.
I have a temporary pole installed and I need to move power to my being built home now, I was thinking in doing an underground cable (between 300 and 400ft) with aluminum cable to my home panel, is that idea correct? Should I talk to the power company before I start digging and putting the cable and all thay to check if theu will jave issues with the length of the cable?
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I had an EV Charger installed by an electrician. They hooked up a 50A breaker and the charger maxes out at a 40A charge. They ran 3 THHN wires to the charger - #8/#8/#10 (Ground).
1. Is that wire size up to code for a 50A breaker?
I noticed the electrician didn’t twist the wire strands before tightening into the terminal and many wires split and didn’t make great contact with the terminal. I backed out the wires, twisted them, and re-torqued them into the terminal. [color=#383a3b]For 2 of the 3 wires I was able to terminate it perfectly on the first attempt after backing the wires out. Not as concerned about those as they had slight wear from being tightened the first time.
For the middle black wire, I backed it out after it was originally installed and it looked like this.[/color]
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[color=#383a3b]It didn’t land perfectly when I went so do it the first time, so it looked like this after I backed it out again.[/color]
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I twisted it again and landed it perfectly in the terminal.
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2. Are[color=#383a3b] there any safety risks or fire concerns with the wear on that copper and re-torquing down in the same spot multiple times? None of the strands broke, but they were dented as you can see.
I wish it was as easy as shortening the wire and torquing on fresh/new copper, but I cannot do that as there isn’t excess wire to shorten it. Any advice/feedback?[/color]
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