Removing the Drywall behind an Oven
#1
06-05-16, 01:55 PM
Removing the Drywall behind an Oven
This is one of those questions that you really don't know where to place, so I figure I'll start here.
I'm installing a new built in oven. The oven is separate from the range, and the range is across the room. The oven is in a lower counter and is replacing one that went bad.
Ok, so here's the problem. I've done all I can to fit this behemoth into the cabinet and have come up 1/2" shy on the DEPTH. The stupid thing actually sticks out a half inch from where the diagrams all say it should fit.
My quick solution (other than returning the damn thing): I could easily cut a hole in the drywall at the back of the cabinet which would give it the needed 1/2" to slide in.
I'm concerned about the integrity of the wall, the heat displacement into the attic etc. The room on the other side is where the garage used to be, but is now a craft room/office.
So, is this a good idea? Should I plan on filling in the dead space with 2x4s to keep the air from going up the wall (as well as keep critters out)? Is there any problem with code in doing this?
I'm installing a new built in oven. The oven is separate from the range, and the range is across the room. The oven is in a lower counter and is replacing one that went bad.
Ok, so here's the problem. I've done all I can to fit this behemoth into the cabinet and have come up 1/2" shy on the DEPTH. The stupid thing actually sticks out a half inch from where the diagrams all say it should fit.
My quick solution (other than returning the damn thing): I could easily cut a hole in the drywall at the back of the cabinet which would give it the needed 1/2" to slide in.
I'm concerned about the integrity of the wall, the heat displacement into the attic etc. The room on the other side is where the garage used to be, but is now a craft room/office.
So, is this a good idea? Should I plan on filling in the dead space with 2x4s to keep the air from going up the wall (as well as keep critters out)? Is there any problem with code in doing this?
#3
06-05-16, 02:36 PM
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Pictures would be nice so we can see what your seeing.
What cabinet?
I've never seen a built in oven without sheet rock behind it.
What cabinet?
I've never seen a built in oven without sheet rock behind it.
#4
06-05-16, 02:57 PM
XSleeper: No, the oven sits above the junction box.
Joecaption: Not sure what pics would show, other than my oven sticking out a half an inch. My wife reminds me that we bought this oven cheap as it was returned and the salesman said it was returned due to "fit." We're guessing that this fit is the problem that caused it to be returned.
I've also never seen an oven without drywall behind it, but I'm trying to get the oven installed and am concerned over air flow issues or code. Would it work for me to simply MOVE the drywall back a half inch? A couple of cut 2/4s is all it would take.
As it stands now, I plan on removing the drywall next weekend, unless I learn something different.
Joecaption: Not sure what pics would show, other than my oven sticking out a half an inch. My wife reminds me that we bought this oven cheap as it was returned and the salesman said it was returned due to "fit." We're guessing that this fit is the problem that caused it to be returned.
I've also never seen an oven without drywall behind it, but I'm trying to get the oven installed and am concerned over air flow issues or code. Would it work for me to simply MOVE the drywall back a half inch? A couple of cut 2/4s is all it would take.
As it stands now, I plan on removing the drywall next weekend, unless I learn something different.
#5
06-05-16, 03:25 PM
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You say it sticks out a 1/2 inch. Just how bad is that? Does it look like it would need to be flush with the surrounding cabinets? On many free standing appliances a 1/2 beyond the adjoining cabinets is not an unusual thing. Send pics so we can get a better understanding of the problem.
#6
06-05-16, 03:27 PM
My initial thought was insert and trim with 1x2. but i also wonder if soace is required between the back and the wall for safety. http://www.doityourself.com/forum/li...rt-images.html
Last edited by ray2047; 06-05-16 at 04:27 PM.
#7
06-05-16, 04:00 PM
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Those are usually zero clearance items but you need sheetrock back there. Removing the sheetrock and leaving exposed studs is out.
I'm trying to figure out how you plan to move the sheetrock back 1/2". That sounds like you are planning to add nailers to the wall studs and then install sheetrock between the studs leaving the face of the studs exposed.
I'm trying to figure out how you plan to move the sheetrock back 1/2". That sounds like you are planning to add nailers to the wall studs and then install sheetrock between the studs leaving the face of the studs exposed.
#9
06-05-16, 04:26 PM
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A wall oven is designed to be installed in a 24" deep cabinet. If yours is 24" to the face frame then the electrical whip is getting caught between the wall and the oven. I have installed many an oven and this has happened to me many times. Sometimes it helps to tie a bare wire around the whip to hold it up so as not to get twisted.
#10
06-05-16, 04:45 PM
Ok, I've taken some pics and you can see that the oven sits out a bit. Not really bad, but 2 things. 1) Even though it's not fitting into the cabinet properly, it does line up with the dishwasher. As stated, i could cover the gap with trim but we're also taking the counter-top, which would look weird.
2) The wife wants it moved.
Yes, adding nailers and moving the drywall seems to be my only option, though not leaving the studs exposed. any studs I discover will be cut back by 1/2" to accommodate the drywall being moved back. Thus I end up with a 'recessed' area, and not a hole.
No, it is NOT the whip. I've taken a camera and snaked it back there and the whip is out of the way, the unit is snug against the wall.
Yes, i agree, most ovens are designed to fit in a 24" cabinet, but this isn't fitting which leads me to believe it is an oddity. (Cheap, too, so not really considering returning it.)
I still plan on taking out the drywall or moving it back as this is the only way to get this installed. My question still remains, concerning code.....
Last edited by Marvinator; 06-05-16 at 05:05 PM.
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06-05-16, 04:51 PM
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I remodel kitchens for a living and run into this problem once in a while with wall ovens.
- Be sure it's not the electric, as Tolyn said. That's the most common reason an oven won't fit.
- I would build-out the face frame with 1/2" solid wood. Leave the drywall intact. You can get help here on the best or easiest way to match the new wood to your cabinets.
- Be sure it's not the electric, as Tolyn said. That's the most common reason an oven won't fit.
- I would build-out the face frame with 1/2" solid wood. Leave the drywall intact. You can get help here on the best or easiest way to match the new wood to your cabinets.
#12
06-30-16, 07:06 AM
WAnted to stop back in and say thanks for all the input. I ended up removing the oven and using some melamine coated wood to create a back flush with the front of the cabinets. This also allowed the oven to now be even with the dishwasher beside it.
Again, thanks, I wouldn't have done it that way without your input!
Again, thanks, I wouldn't have done it that way without your input!
