Ceiling fan installation to bare ceiling


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Old 06-18-16, 08:07 AM
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Ceiling fan installation to bare ceiling

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This is my first post on this site and I have couple of questions in regards to installing a ceiling fan. So currently there is a light fixture that is wired to a wall receptacle, which is wired to a dimmer switch. I want to wire the fan to the switch directly, so that the wall receptacle is always hot and the fan is run by the dimmer switch. My issue is that right now there is not wiring for the fan, except from the wall outlet, how can I take the electricity from the outlet. And make the wall outlet hot at all times?
In addition to this, the mounting screw is 1.5" and it would go through to the shingles if I mounted it like that. So I want to mount a piece of wood 6"X6"X1" as a bracket in between the actual mounting bracket and the bare ceiling. I want to cut this at a 22.5 degree angle so that the fan can sit straight as well. What do people think of this?
Thank you for your help!
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Old 06-18-16, 08:44 AM
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currently there is a light fixture that is wired to a wall receptacle, which is wired to a dimmer switch
By code receptacles can not be on a dimmer. The fans motor can not be on a dimmer.
My issue is that right now there is not wiring for the fan, except from the wall outlet,
And that is wrong. The fan needs to be connected to the switch.
can I take the electricity from the outlet. And make the wall outlet hot at all times?
That would work or make the receptacle always hot and run power to the switch box, install a duplex switch and run 3-conductor cable plus ground to the fan.
So I want to mount a piece of wood 6"X6"X1" as a bracket in between the actual mounting bracket and the bare ceiling. I want to cut this at a 22.5 degree angle so that the fan can sit straight as well. What do people think of this?
Code violation and unsafe. The fan must have a junction box. You could use a surface mount Wiremold fan box.

You would fasten a 2x6 across the rafters using 3" #10 wood screws and fasten the Wiremold fan box to that. The down rod will rotate on its ball so the fan hangs straight

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Or if it doesn't need to be exactly centered just fasten the fan box to the rafter.
 

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Old 06-18-16, 10:24 AM
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The switch shown is a switch loop. The white is not a neutral. You can rewire the receptacle so the white is a neutral at the switch box, but you will lose control of the receptacle from the switch.
 
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Old 06-18-16, 11:21 PM
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Thank you!

Thank you for your responses. To clarify, I want to make the switch work with the fan, I can make it on just a switch if necessary for code. I plan on putting a 2"X6" in between the top of the truces to mount the fan now, Thank you for that!
As far as the wiring goes, how would I go about wiring this to just the switch, and leaving the wall receptacle stand alone with both outlets working?
 
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Old 06-19-16, 12:38 AM
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