Shallow recessed light remodel cans?
#1
11-23-16, 01:42 PM
Shallow recessed light remodel cans?
Hi,
Our house is a ranch with 2x6 ceiling joists. There is some plywood floor in the attic as well as rigid A/C ducting, so I'm looking for the largest diameter line voltage cans that I can fit within the height of the 5-1/2" tall ceiling joists. I really don't want to cut through the flooring and obviously can't mess w/the ducts that sit on the joists. I also need sealed IC fixtures.
Is there anything larger than 4" so that we can use bigger/brighter LED's and install less fixtures?
Thanks guys!
Our house is a ranch with 2x6 ceiling joists. There is some plywood floor in the attic as well as rigid A/C ducting, so I'm looking for the largest diameter line voltage cans that I can fit within the height of the 5-1/2" tall ceiling joists. I really don't want to cut through the flooring and obviously can't mess w/the ducts that sit on the joists. I also need sealed IC fixtures.
Is there anything larger than 4" so that we can use bigger/brighter LED's and install less fixtures?
Thanks guys!
Last edited by syakoban; 11-23-16 at 02:15 PM.
#3
11-23-16, 04:43 PM
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OP said remodel....so old work.
Consider using flush mount LED fixtures. They are available in round or square, various sizes, and line or low voltage. If you use line voltage, they only require a jbox in the ceiling, no can. No worries about insulation contact either. They do stick down a little more than a can trim, but not much, maybe an inch.
Consider using flush mount LED fixtures. They are available in round or square, various sizes, and line or low voltage. If you use line voltage, they only require a jbox in the ceiling, no can. No worries about insulation contact either. They do stick down a little more than a can trim, but not much, maybe an inch.
#4
11-23-16, 05:39 PM
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Halo makes shallow 6", air tight, IC rated cans that will fit in a 2x6 cavity. Halo 6 in. Aluminum Recessed Lighting Remodel Shallow IC Air-Tite Housing-H27RICAT - The Home Depot
I suspect other manufacturers do as well, (such as Juno) but I mostly work with Halo.
I suspect other manufacturers do as well, (such as Juno) but I mostly work with Halo.
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11-24-16, 05:20 AM
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#6
11-24-16, 05:34 AM
I agree with Paul. Use the shallow LED trims that fit into a 4" junction box. Cost about $35 each, but only two components and you are done. Halo 5 in. and 6 in. Matte White Recessed LED Surface Disk Light with 90 CRI, 3000K-SLD606930WHR - The Home Depot
#8
12-03-16, 04:31 PM
Back to the idea of using shallow LED trims that fit into a 4" junction box:
What box volume do I need?
Ceiling joists may not be where I want the lights to layout. Are there old work boxes that can support the weight of these LED's? Are they available in metal?
What box volume do I need?
Ceiling joists may not be where I want the lights to layout. Are there old work boxes that can support the weight of these LED's? Are they available in metal?
#9
12-03-16, 04:40 PM
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Yes, remodel boxes will have no issues supporting the LED disk lights. I recommend getting the biggest boxes you can as the disk lights take up a lot of room in the box. This is the box I normally use: 1-Gang 18 cu. in. Round Old Work Ceiling Box-B618RR - The Home Depot I would also suggest using #14/2 cable. There are no metal boxes that are 4" round in remodel, but with NM cable it is better to use plastic anyway.
#10
12-03-16, 05:42 PM
Even with the boxes Tolyn recommended, and they are the best, you have to position the transformer in a proper position to get it to twist lock in place. You'll see it once you try it. But they work great.
#11
12-03-16, 06:29 PM
I realize the LEDdd lights are not heavy, but is there any code issue since it says "Not intended for fixture or support in ceilings?"
No transformer heat issues in the cramped space?
No transformer heat issues in the cramped space?
#13
12-04-16, 08:31 AM
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Just another option, These: Commercial Electric 6 in. Soft White Recessed LED Can Disk Light-CE-JB6-650L-27K-E26-2 - The Home Depot are the disk lights I have used. I have not used the ones Chandler posted, but Halo makes some good stuff so I would not shy away from them.
