Chandelier fixture bar issues

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Old 12-14-16, 09:53 PM
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Chandelier fixture bar issues

So the support bracket is installed. The chandelier attaches to the box via a slotted cross brace as is typical.

Issue 1: the cross brace is the same size as the box. Isnt the cross bracket supposed to sandwhich the ceiling with the box on the other side?

Issue 2: the chandelier trim dome secures to a center nut. The center nut is no where near accessible to secure the dome unless you loosen the screws that secure the mounting bracket to the fixture almost entirely. But then the chandelier is just hanging on two barely threaded screws and can slide around via the slots in the bracket.



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Old 12-14-16, 10:33 PM
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The screws on the fixture bar must remain tight.

Between the two red lines is a piece of 1/8" pipe. That can be replaced with longer but usually that rod comes sized for the fixture bar fitting flush to the ceiling.

You can do one of two things....

Screw nut A down on that rod.
Make sure there is no extra rod above the fixture bar that can be brought down.

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Old 12-15-16, 04:54 AM
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Yep I concur. Im likely gonna have to source a longer pipe then because nut A is almost at the end of its travel. Theres maybe 1/8"of thread left to come down and that wont be enough. There was a bag labeled spare parts perhaps a longer rod is in there....

The screws on the fixture bar have to be tight which is what i yhough obviously it can't slide around. However it is acceptable to loosen the nuts on the fixture box to allow it to hang lower out of the ceiling yes? Otherwise fully tightened thr box is recessed 1/8" into the ceiling making the problem worse.
 
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Old 12-15-16, 09:33 AM
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I wouldn't want any loose nuts or screws that could possibly work loose.
Home improvement stores carry the rods but you may need to cut one.
 
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What about something call a box extender? If i could drop the box down it would effectively drop the lock nut.

Do they make anything that is meant for ceiling fixtures?
 
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Old 12-15-16, 05:13 PM
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Box extender is too deep and is not the thing for what you need there.
 
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The part that PJmax marked with an A does not need to be threaded all the way onto the threaded nipple. just unscrew it enough so the the locknut will screw on enough to support the canopy. Otherwise a longer nipple will work for you.
 
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A longer nipple doesnt work bc I already cut the cord and wire nuts wont fit inside a nipple. I could get a new lamp cord and replace the current one. A box entension almost works about 1/4 too deep.

I ended up using longer screws screw into the electrical box with nuts on the bracket to hold it in place and nuts /lock washer against the box to keep from backing out however unlikely. Worked good i think.

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