Strange issue with a BMW 325I(M56 Engine) RPM drop & strange noise
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Strange issue with a BMW 325I(M56 Engine) RPM drop & strange noise
SO, I have posted this in two BMW forums and have received some help, BUT I have yet to solve the issue. Just thought I would throw it out here and see if anyone has any input. I have a a 2005 E46(325I) with the M56(SULEV) engine. The car has a a 104,XXX miles. I have recently done they following; plugs, pulleys, thermostat, water pump, belts, coolant system, oil change and coolant change. Here is the issue, when driving the vehicle, and I hit 40 mph and about 1600 RPM, the RPM's will drop and the car will bog down(loss of power). The interesting part is the car makes a DEEP THROATY TYPE SOUND from the rear, possible exhaust. I can power through it with no issues. Any thoughts on what could be going on? THANKS!
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My line of thinking is to deal with anything that would temporarily lag the delivery of fuel under load, with continued load the computer is adapting to the anomolies and adding more fuel, recovering your acceleration.
When the car is lugging with the auto trans seeking best fuel economy by operating at lower rpm, the computer would send more fuel, but somehow that's not happening and you are getting the bog.
Check each of the spark plugs, since they are recent they should all look pretty good, light tan colour. If one looks different than the others, might indicate a coil on plug failing. The throaty sound might just be the result of a cylinder not firing, and the engine sound would change. Check the electrical connectors to each coil, might have bumped things with the other service items you did.
Could be the various sensors, the intake air temp, crank position and cam position sensors specifically. All of these feed data to the computer that changes the fuel metering. These sensors are wear items, and tend to fail slowly, ie. give incorrect readings to the computer, rather than outright. But first check the connectors to the sensors as well. Use some electrical contact cleaner to make sure the connections are as sound as can be.
Could be a maf sensor, but that usually results in some rough idle and other symptoms beyond what you are reporting. Oxygen sensors on the cat might also be suspect, but the drivability problems should be a bit broader than you report. Does the car lag if you hit the accelerator at any speed? Is the idle ok? Same issue if the car is warmed up or cold?
Not sure if you have emissions testing in your area, but a sniffer in the exhaust pipe with the car operated under various loads might tell you something if the emmissions are out of spec.
When the car is lugging with the auto trans seeking best fuel economy by operating at lower rpm, the computer would send more fuel, but somehow that's not happening and you are getting the bog.
Check each of the spark plugs, since they are recent they should all look pretty good, light tan colour. If one looks different than the others, might indicate a coil on plug failing. The throaty sound might just be the result of a cylinder not firing, and the engine sound would change. Check the electrical connectors to each coil, might have bumped things with the other service items you did.
Could be the various sensors, the intake air temp, crank position and cam position sensors specifically. All of these feed data to the computer that changes the fuel metering. These sensors are wear items, and tend to fail slowly, ie. give incorrect readings to the computer, rather than outright. But first check the connectors to the sensors as well. Use some electrical contact cleaner to make sure the connections are as sound as can be.
Could be a maf sensor, but that usually results in some rough idle and other symptoms beyond what you are reporting. Oxygen sensors on the cat might also be suspect, but the drivability problems should be a bit broader than you report. Does the car lag if you hit the accelerator at any speed? Is the idle ok? Same issue if the car is warmed up or cold?
Not sure if you have emissions testing in your area, but a sniffer in the exhaust pipe with the car operated under various loads might tell you something if the emmissions are out of spec.
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im having the exact same issue, the car does not lag if i hit the accelerator at any speed. it will go through all the gears and accelerate without issue. i have noticed a bit of a rougher idle, not so bad you would notice if you didnt drive the car everyday. and the car experiences the same issue warm or cold.
i had all the same work done to my car as well, but i can say that i did notice the problem before the work was done.
as stated by the orig poster, if i maintain a speed of about 45 to 55 mph or around 2000rpm and am crusing in 5th gear, if i give more throttle it will pull out of the bog and shift into a lower gear (4th) and continue to accelerate. i have been doing some research and my conclusioon is it could be the vanos seals, as i read in another forum or the o2 sensor or MAF, but i dont think its the maf lol
i had all the same work done to my car as well, but i can say that i did notice the problem before the work was done.
as stated by the orig poster, if i maintain a speed of about 45 to 55 mph or around 2000rpm and am crusing in 5th gear, if i give more throttle it will pull out of the bog and shift into a lower gear (4th) and continue to accelerate. i have been doing some research and my conclusioon is it could be the vanos seals, as i read in another forum or the o2 sensor or MAF, but i dont think its the maf lol