hanging curtains, metal behind drywall?


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Old 12-25-22, 03:21 PM
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hanging curtains, metal behind drywall?

I am trying to fix my brother's window curtain rod, the handyman did the installation did not do the job right and the middle bracket was just loosely screwed into the drywall.

I tried to install drywall anchor and noticed there is some sort of metal behind the drywall, see attached photo. You can see the metal in the left side of the hole from the second photo.

There is no electric outlet around the window at all, what this metal could be?


 
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Old 12-25-22, 05:00 PM
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Could be some type of construction hanger, actually will make an excellent attachment for the bracket, will need to drill the correct size for the fastener being used!
 
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Old 12-25-22, 05:03 PM
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Hard to tell because it's out of focus. But it kind of looks like a nail head, or maybe an old molly anchor. You'd need to expose more of it or take a better photo to know for sure.
 
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It is a flat piece of thin metal and the right edge is not round at all so definitely not a nail head.
 
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How near the edge of the window is it? It could be the corner bead flange. What kind of building is this? Could you have steel studs?
Better pictures would help.
 
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Tightcoat, see the red box he outlined in the first image?
 
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The first time I looked at this thread the first image was pixilated. Now it is clear. What kind of construction is this building/. Could there be a steel column between the windows? Steel studs?
Do I understand you hit the very edge of the metal? Seismic strapping?





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Yes, it seems that the hole sits right on edge of the metal on the left side, and i feel like there is another piece of metal on the right side of the hole.

The metal sheet itself has straight edge, not round, no definitely not a nail head.

It is a townhome building, the window is on the third level. This place is in FL.
 
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Since it is in FL and it is on the third level I would guess it is a hurricane tie of some sort or a truss plate.

If you are certain there is nothing behind there that cannot be damaged you could drill into it with a self-tapping screw or a drill bit to clear the way for a wood screw.
 
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I thinkTolyn Ironhand might be onto something. I am curious enough that I would make a hole large enough to find out what it is. But then I know how to fix the hole. If there are two pieces of metal side by side can you fit a screw between the two pieces and hit wood?
 
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I will try to enlarge the hole and see what is behind the right side of the hole. I can feel there is another piece of metal there.

the gap between the side by side metals is probably less than 1/8 thin
 
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I have another idea what you may have. I will await your report and a photo if you can get one.
 
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Okay, i have enlarged the hole, as well as poked another hole about 4" above the current hole.

I can now clearly see two metal pieces in the hole, about 1/4" space in between(see photo 1), same thing in the above hole(photo 2, not very clear, just to show the other hole on top of the current one ).





 
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So in that 1/4" space between the galvanized plates... is that wood? My fear would be that the metal plates are protecting a wire. When wires are closer than 1 1/4" they must be covered by a protective metal plate to prevent people from putting a nail or screw into the wire. But without knowing anything about the framing there it's hard to say.
 
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XSleeper, I had not thought about nail guards. I was thinking maybe a truss plate type plate. Could still be hurricane straps, too.

casita, The wall material looks more fibrous than I would expect conventional drywall to be.
This s not related to you original question.

But does your curtain bracket have to be exactly where you have made your exploration? Can you offset it from center just enough to hit wood? If you can drill a tiny hole so see if you hit lumber that is not guarded that might be an acceptable place for the bracket. Can you get access to the attic above the wall in question to see if there are wires or plumbing there?
 
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It could very well be a strap or tie... the problem is no way to know for sure.
 
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hmmm, i found out the windows on the second floor have exact same situation, wondering if this might help to diagnose anything.
 
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A ceiling mount rod might be a better option in this case, but then he'd need to buy longer curtains. Or inside mount shades or blinds instead of curtains and rod.
 
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update, i went ahead and drilled the holes for drywall anchors and installed the rod without any issues.

The reason I took the shot is that the chance of there is some sort of electric box there is very low giving the fact that the windows on the second floor has exact same metal sheet.

thanks everyone for the suggestions!
 
 

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