I suspect it’s the bath tub overflow gasket on 2nd floor bathroom above ceiling.
top pic is before damage.
my first question is, is the leak damage just on the drywall on ceiling? Or could it have potentially cause damage to any wood or anything structural in between? I’m having a plumber inspect the tub on Monday.
Second question is how do i fix this crack?
This texture on the crack is so weird, I can’t recognize how that happened. Does that look like water damage?
It doesn't look like there are any water stains but that a big portion of drywall sagging. IF the drywall is still sound and IF you can push it back up and resecure it to the joists you will be able to tape, finish and texture the repair. I'd use a 2x or 1x to push the drywall back in place, you'd want to have the pressure over a larger area as pushing in just one spot will likely break the drywall.
As long as the framing has dried out there shouldn't be any issue with it.
"...is the leak damage just on the drywall on ceiling?" The only way to know is to remove the drywall in that area and look. It largely depends on how long the leak has been happening and how frequently it occurs. Basically how wet has it kept the area between floors. Opening the ceiling up will also allow you to positively identify the source of the leak. It also allow airflow to the space between floors so it can dry out much faster.
"... texture on the crack is so weird..." That is normal for water damage near a seam.
This may be a dumb question but why is it white under the sagging.
Is this a double sheeted ceiling?
I would have expected to see floor joists.
Perhaps it is just the camera angle / lighting.
Yes it looks like a second sheet of drywall. Did you mean adhesive tape or mesh tape? There was no mesh tape when I looked.
there doesn’t appear to be any water damage. I will need to look again when I get home. But I would think if there was a leak, the second dry wall between it should have been stained too? how is it possible that only the outside is ripping?
If the outside edge got wet then the nails/screws could have lost their holding power .... but would still be connected to the joists. It's also possible the drywall hangers did a poor job of fastening that sheet.
Hi, sorry for the following post... but I've spent months trying to figure out the best way to make some repairs and simply can't seem to find anyone else who's dealt with what I have. Recently found this messageboard and hoping someone might have advice for my specific problems.
Some info about my house: located in Baltimore, MD, built in the 50's, block walls/structure, flat roof, and mainly plaster & very old "wall board" from what I can tell...
[u][b]CEILING[/b][/u]
Last year the roof started to leak, causing damage to the ceiling in several rooms on the 2nd floor. The guest bedroom/bathroom had an active leak that, over the course of several weeks/months, caused latex paint to separate from ceiling, cracking & delamination of wallpaper(?) and a coat of veneer plaster. In another room, a section that had no visible water damage, the finish plaster just started cracking and falling off... exposing a base coat (?) of plaster. Here are some photos of what the areas look like now:
Guest Bedroom:
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[i]The original leak spot; previous owner had "repaired" it with regular joint compound that easily scraped off and then I eventually cut out this hole[/i]
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[i]Other side of the room; I cut this hole in a section that has visibly bowed out/away from the support beams above[/i]
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[i]CU of section that has bowed out from support beams[/i]
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[i]Section of ceiling that I cut away, and my assumptions as to it's makeup... I've never seen anything like this before so I have no idea what it actually is, or what current options are available to re-create it[/i]
Master Bedroom:
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[i]Delamination originated from the middle of largest grey area; apparently the previous owner had also tried to repair this area with joint compound as well, which I removed along with all other loose material[/i]
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[i]CU showing what I assume is a basecoat of plaster, then veneer plaster, then wall paper (the brown stuff is a paper-glue layer) and at least 2 layers of paint[/i]
[b]Current Plan to Repair:[/b]
- Remove any heavily damaged/warped areas completely and patch with new sheets of 1/2 drywall, adding new support 2"x4" blocking if needed to bridge support between old & new board.
- Apply PlasterWeld to areas where original finish/veneer plaster fell off
- Use tape (paper, plastic mesh, FibaTape?) and hot-mud (Durabond or EasySand?) on new/old material transitions, and use same mud to replace missing finish plaster areas
- Skim coat with Plus 3
- Prime & paint
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[u][b]WALL[/b][/u]
There was a badly patched step-crack in a wall that I figured I would re-do as well. After removing the previous patch I realized that the crack was telegraphing cracks/missing mortar in the block wall. This entire wall is plaster-on-block: a thick basecoat, finish/veneer layer, wallpaper(?) and several coats of paint. I assumed whatever caused the block cracks (foundation settling, etc) happened a long time ago, so I went ahead and removed all loose material, re-mortared large gaps & used high-strength epoxy on the smaller cracks, applied PlasterWeld and then using Structolite to repair/replace the missing basecoat layer. Here's some photos of the process & current state:
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[i]1st pass at removing loose material & previous patch[/i]
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[i]Finished demo[/i]
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[i]After applying new mortar & epoxy to block wall[/i]
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[i]After applying Structolite[/i]
[b]Current Plan to Repair:[/b]
Since the wall is now comprised of multiple different materials (new structolite, old painted/primed wallpaper(?), and some areas of old finish veneer), I'm going to attempt skim coating the entire thing, but I'm not sure how to go about it. I removed some more of the painted/primed wallpaper to reveal more of the veneer plaster, but it would probably take me another 40+ hours to do that... so I'd rather:
- Apply a sealer/primer to prep the entire wall (do I need something as robust/expensive as BIN, or would a water-based product be fine?)
- 1st skim coat using something hard like Durabond or EasySand
- final skim coat(s) using Plus3
- prime & paint
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I have a feeling I already messed up somewhere, but do my current repair plans seem correct? Please advise... thank you!
In this flip remodel from the 60's there's this fan or blower thingsome that's in the corridor. It's very loud and I don't think anyone uses these anymore. The house has a functioning HVAC system. The vents are bent, the color is a tired off white. It's an eyesore. Any ideas, suggestions on what to do with it, or dress it, or anything, other than painting it a clean white?
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02-03-23, 03:14 AM
